EP. 370 — The Arrival LIVE!

[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: Open up a can of smashed assholes. We saw The Arrival, so you know what that means.

[00:00:11] Music: [Intro Song]

[00:00:12] Paul Scheer: Hello people of Earth, and hello, people up Los Angeles.

[00:01:04] We are live in our LA home on the third night of our tour where we didn’t even have to leave town. Now that’s the way you’re supposed to do it. Celine Dion style. Couple years from now we’ll be in Vegas. We’ll all be there. It’ll be a blast. Tonight, uh, we are talking about a movie that I raced out to see in the theater.

[00:01:35] That’s right. When I heard Charlie Sheenan, aliens, I was like, get me a ticket. Ran out, saw The Arrival all one hour and 55 minutes of it and loved it. Alright. Uh, IMDB describes The Arrival as “Zane an astronomer discovers intelligent alien life, but the aliens are keeping a deadly secret and will do anything to stop Zane from learning it.”

[00:02:00] I would say that that description really gives you a lot more energy than the movie has. Um, uh, this is a movie whose budget was $25 million. And opening weekend. Yeah, that, that is surprising. This is back in 1996. So think about $25 million in 1996. That’s about like $75 million. And the opening weekend, 4.8. Domestic gross.

[00:02:31] 14. Alright. So yeah, people didn’t connect with it the way that I connected with it back in 1996. Uh, but it does have a 66% on the, uh, the tomato meter from the audience. ’cause the audience gets it. Um, we’re gonna break down everything that happens in The Arrival. We’re gonna find out if aliens do exist here tonight with my cohost.

[00:02:55] Please welcome to the stage, Mr. Jason Mantzoukas!

[00:03:04] Jason Mantzoukas: What’s up, jerks? Yes, let’s go. Let’s go. Oh, we have arrived.

[00:03:12] Paul Scheer: We have arrived.

[00:03:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Our arrival is here. It is now.

[00:03:17] Paul Scheer: I don’t know if you have a memory of this and I don’t know.

[00:03:19] Jason Mantzoukas: I don’t know this movie at all.

[00:03:20] Paul Scheer: Really?

[00:03:21] Jason Mantzoukas: This movie’s a zero for me. I watched this and was like, wow.

[00:03:26] Paul Scheer: I was excited. I was like, can’t wait to revisit. Cause I was a fan of the movie that kind of, uh, preceded this, which was called Terminal Velocity. Do you remember that?

[00:03:36] Jason Mantzoukas: No. Wait, this is a sequel?

[00:03:39] Paul Scheer: No, David Twohy.

[00:03:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, oh, I see. I You like the director’s other work.

[00:03:43] Paul Scheer: They were like, let’s work together again. Terminal Velocity is great.

[00:03:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Did we do it?

[00:03:48] Paul Scheer: No.

[00:03:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, it’s great?

[00:03:50] Paul Scheer: Well, I mean, who knows? I thought this is great too.

[00:03:53] Jason Mantzoukas: So it’s Twohy and Chuck Sheen again?

[00:03:55] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:03:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Get back at it?

[00:03:56] Paul Scheer: I, there was a time, and maybe it’s ’cause I worked at Blockbuster where I was watching a lot of Charlie Sheen movies and being like, this guy’s got the goods.

[00:04:04] Jason Mantzoukas: What I found nuts about this was I not only hadn’t seen it, I knew nothing about it.

[00:04:09] Paul Scheer: Okay.

[00:04:09] Jason Mantzoukas: So that there was a, Charlie Sheen is a scientist slash Indiana Jones slash smart person. I, I was like, no, I don’t know what that, I don’t even know what this is.

[00:04:27] Paul Scheer: The fact that you’re saying Indiana Jones, really, I mean.

[00:04:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, all of the second act in Mexico, he appears to be doing a Indiana Jones Romancing The Stone rip.

[00:04:35] Paul Scheer: I guess you’re right.

[00:04:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Here’s June.

[00:04:37] Paul Scheer: Oh wait, ladies, gentlemen, June Diane Raphael!

[00:04:46] June Diane Raphael: Too much was being said.

[00:04:52] Paul Scheer: Sorry, June, how are you?

[00:04:53] June Diane Raphael: I’m okay now. How are you?

[00:04:57] Paul Scheer: Um, june, where do you fall on The Arrival?

[00:04:59] June Diane Raphael: So, I had never seen it similar to Jason. Never heard about it. Um, I loved it. And you really prepped me because you were like, it’s very difficult to watch, like start watching it now. You’ll have to take breaks. Like, it’s hard, hard, hard.

[00:05:14] Jason Mantzoukas: I rewound a lot, I rewound a lot because I found that I was easily distracted while watching it because it did go slowly for me. So not enough was happening all the time. So I would get distracted and then I could tell something happened. So I would, so I actually re, I watched this movie for over four hours.

[00:05:32] June Diane Raphael: It’s funny because I said to, I said to Paul, I’m like. He, I, I, I was watching and then I did get confused at one thing. I’m like, no, how did he find that factory in Mexico?

[00:05:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.

[00:05:40] June Diane Raphael: Like how did he find it? And Paul was like, ’cause he had already finished it. He was like, oh, he, well, he was just like, he was like looking through the jungle and then he saw it. And I was like, no, you didn’t watch that part either. Then you also were distracted. And then I went back and I was like, no, that’s.

[00:05:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. He goes looking for the radio station. It’s burned out. And then it pretty much just cuts to him with some sort of telescope. Isn’t that him with the telescope?

[00:06:07] June Diane Raphael: Just comes upon it.

[00:06:07] Paul Scheer: Yeah. We also, as well, I mean, Charlie Sheen is doing some great CGI acting where it’s like, Charlie, this thing’s gonna come out of the ground. It’s gonna be big. You gotta give us a big reaction. Oh. And he’s like, yeah, I mean it every, everything is like Charlie bigger. It’s gotta be this, the bathtub falls through the floor. Charlie, give it to us big.

[00:06:32] June Diane Raphael: Can I say something though? I thought he did a fine job.

[00:06:35] Paul Scheer: I fucking love Charlie Sheen.

[00:06:36] June Diane Raphael: I really did. I find him to be very watchable, whether you like that or not. I really do.

[00:06:41] Jason Mantzoukas: They did him a disservice by really, he’s on a journey alone for so much of the movie. He has almost no one to talk to or bounce stuff off of except for those moments or periods of time where he links up for a few scenes with Kiki the kid, or for a few scenes with Lindsay Krause, or for a few scenes with Terry Polo. But otherwise he’s just on his own and holding it together as best he can. But when he goes undercover into the spaceship, the, the air, the base, whatever.

[00:07:10] Paul Scheer: The factory, the alien factory.

[00:07:12] Jason Mantzoukas: When it’s guys, yeah. When it’s established that they are aliens, it is one hour and 15 minutes into this movie before someone’s legs do a Mr Tumnus.

[00:07:27] June Diane Raphael: And the interesting thing about those legs is like. First of all, I thought it was very for limited, CGI sci whatever for that type of work to be like early days. I actually thought that choice was very evocative.

[00:07:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Sure.

[00:07:43] June Diane Raphael: I was like, oh, that’s deeply upsetting.

[00:07:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.

[00:07:46] June Diane Raphael: And that is alien. That’s so wrong. But then I did have to wonder about the aliens because they are advanced creatures.

[00:07:56] Um, it’s just harder to walk with your legs backwards.

[00:08:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, they don’t, you.

[00:08:01] Paul Scheer: Well, they don’t have to.

[00:08:02] Jason Mantzoukas: You almost never see them walk. They seem to be using it to jump.

[00:08:05] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:08:05] June Diane Raphael: Yeah, they do.

[00:08:06] Jason Mantzoukas: That guy, when that guy, Mr. Tumnus his legs and jumps up through the thing, I was like.

[00:08:10] June Diane Raphael: Screamed. I screamed.

[00:08:11] Jason Mantzoukas: I wish this had been happening for 20 minutes already. And it doesn’t happen for another 20 minutes still.

[00:08:17] Paul Scheer: You know, June you said you, it was disturbing to see their legs go backwards. I’ll tell you what was disturbing to me. Um, Charlie Sheen’s goatee.

[00:08:27] June Diane Raphael: Sure.

[00:08:27] Paul Scheer: It’s a rough look. It’s a rough look for an attractive man. I don’t know if that was like, oh yeah, I’m a scientist. It’s like a goatee, you know? I don’t know if that was a choice in his life or a choice for the character.

[00:08:40] Jason Mantzoukas: What year did you say this was?

[00:08:42] Paul Scheer: 96.

[00:08:42] Jason Mantzoukas: I feel like this is peak goatee.

[00:08:44] June Diane Raphael: Yeah, I think so.

[00:08:45] Jason Mantzoukas: This is, this is big goatee time.

[00:08:48] Paul Scheer: So we’re all into goatees.

[00:08:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Like, this is when I had a goatee, I believe.

[00:08:53] Paul Scheer: Oh, wow.

[00:08:53] Jason Mantzoukas: 96. Yeah. This is when I had a big like, only goatee that went like this long.

[00:08:58] Paul Scheer: Whoa.

[00:08:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Like I was like, was.

[00:09:00] June Diane Raphael: So upsetting.

[00:09:00] Jason Mantzoukas: I was in Anthrax.

[00:09:03] Paul Scheer: Love that.

[00:09:04] June Diane Raphael: Well, it’s so funny because the character that he plays, and I don’t know if this is Charlie Sheen, I don’t know where the line is between Charlie Sheen and the character, but you.

[00:09:13] Paul Scheer: The character of Zane.

[00:09:14] June Diane Raphael: Zane.

[00:09:15] Jason Mantzoukas: I hated that his name was Zane.

[00:09:16] June Diane Raphael: It was horrible.

[00:09:17] Paul Scheer: Zane.

[00:09:17] June Diane Raphael: Said so much.

[00:09:18] Paul Scheer: Zaminsky. Zane Zaminsky.

[00:09:21] June Diane Raphael: But the thing about Zane is like, it’s not like Indiana Jones. A lot of these other character scientists turn sort of action hero characters. They do seem like, oh, they’re normal, nice guys who are, have this thing unfolding in front of them and are, are trying to get people to understand their point of view.

[00:09:40] With him, it was like, oh, you are. You do have the truth, and I understand that you’re trying to get people to believe you ’cause what you know is true, but you are still crazy. Like you Zane, I mean, are still insane.

[00:09:56] Jason Mantzoukas: I’m not, well, I’m not on his side, that’s for sure.

[00:09:58] June Diane Raphael: No, you can’t. Hard to.

[00:09:59] Paul Scheer: The way that you don’t get on his side right away is when he is working, his wife calls him and says, oh, I’m out at a bar. And he is like, what? Where are you? Better get home.

[00:10:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.

[00:10:10] Paul Scheer: I’m like, wow. All right. Wait a second. It was.

[00:10:12] Jason Mantzoukas: I thought that was crazy too. That’s not his wife though. Terry Polo’s, not his wife.

[00:10:15] Paul Scheer: Oh, his girlfriend, right?

[00:10:16] Jason Mantzoukas: No, no. I’m only saying that because I was like, oh wait, they are not married. Are they?

[00:10:19] June Diane Raphael: That’s the thing that I loved about this movie though, is the choices it makes, the, the love triangle that’s established is so.

[00:10:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Between Charlie, Terry, polo and Kiki?

[00:10:33] June Diane Raphael: The fact that they’re not married, that she’s also got her own career journey in San Diego. That we think she’s an alien at one point.

[00:10:43] Jason Mantzoukas: For a lot of the movie. I thought she.

[00:10:44] Paul Scheer: I wanted her to be an alien.

[00:10:45] Jason Mantzoukas: She works at a brokerage. She works at a brokerage. He works for like, I don’t know.

[00:10:50] Paul Scheer: SeTI.

[00:10:51] Jason Mantzoukas: So he works for Seti, sorry. Then he’s just walking, then he gets fired. Uh, Toby Ziegler is his partner in crime from the West Wing. Richard Schiff, like one of the true greats.

[00:11:00] June Diane Raphael: One of the true greats. And I was bummed he was killed.

[00:11:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Heartbroken. I have so many of my notes in the beginning are like, fuck yes, Toby Ziegler’s here, gimme more Zieg. And guess what? No, he’s done. The land. The landscapers get him. They, they pruned him right up.

[00:11:16] Paul Scheer: I do, I do wanna like figure out, ’cause these guys are like, there are versions of this movie where it’s like Charlie Sheen’s a real estate agent and on the side. He has an afa, an infatuation with aliens like, you know, in the way that like, uh, Richard Dreyfus character and the, you know, uh, Close Encounters his job isn’t aliens.

[00:11:35] It’s like, but Right. So he is doing his job. He is working at his job and Terry Polo is like, ah. You’re just obsessed with these aliens. It’s like, it’s his job. Well, not only that, he’s doing his job. Not only that, another night working, it’s at his job.

[00:11:50] Jason Mantzoukas: It’s also success at his job.

[00:11:52] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:11:53] Jason Mantzoukas: That’s the thing is he is giving his bosses exactly what he’s supposed to be bringing.

[00:11:56] June Diane Raphael: But that’s what I couldn’t quite understand though, is his job to find alien frequencies.

[00:12:01] Paul Scheer: Yes.

[00:12:01] Jason Mantzoukas: I think they’re listening.

[00:12:02] Paul Scheer: That’s SETI..

[00:12:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Him and Toby Ziegler are listening at the, some frequencies and then they hear something. They bring the tape to actor activist Ron Silva.

[00:12:13] Paul Scheer: You gotta love Ron Silva.

[00:12:15] June Diane Raphael: Doing so wonderful in this movie.

[00:12:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible in this movie.

[00:12:19] Paul Scheer: I love him.

[00:12:19] Jason Mantzoukas: As is the Ron Silver character, where he’s also himself, but with a mustache.

[00:12:25] Paul Scheer: I, I am. I just, you know.

[00:12:27] Jason Mantzoukas: I loved that. I loved when we had Ron Silver play multiple. I was like, whoa.

[00:12:31] Paul Scheer: It was so good.

[00:12:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, and then, oh yeah.

[00:12:34] Paul Scheer: I would just say that Seti stands for the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. That’s his job.

[00:12:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. They are listening. Yes.

[00:12:41] Paul Scheer: That’s, that’s his job. Just like.

[00:12:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Which was make made sense, but nowhere in the, okay, so nowhere in the movies setup. I understand what’s happened, but like June was saying, I am not, I’m not rooting for Charlie Sheen. Charlie Sheen doesn’t seem to know what exactly he’s pursuing. You know? He, there should be.

[00:12:58] Paul Scheer: The biggest find of all time.

[00:13:00] Jason Mantzoukas: That’s what I’m saying. He should be a whistleblower. He should be like, he should, he should have the information. He’s.

[00:13:05] Paul Scheer: He is. Remember when he put on suit.

[00:13:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Run it all over the world.

[00:13:07] Paul Scheer: But he, but he puts on that, well, once they didn’t listen to him when he, I guess, goes undercover as a janitor and then goes into that meeting to be like, where’s my boss? I’m like, wait, why are we doing this?

[00:13:17] June Diane Raphael: He wasn’t in a janitor’s.

[00:13:18] Jason Mantzoukas: No, that’s what he wears, man.

[00:13:21] June Diane Raphael: That’s, well, no, that’s, that’s his. He’s a telephone, he’s a satellite person or a satellite telephone salesperson.

[00:13:29] Paul Scheer: Wait, wait. I thought that that was the one scene when he is like going around town, getting the satellites all hooked up. But I thought like, that’s his job, but I didn’t know he would wear that to the meeting.

[00:13:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah, he’s wearing that. He’s wearing full like, uh, regalia belt and everything. And like Indiana Jones has his whip on his hip all the time for Charlie Sheen. It’s a Sony Quartz Walkman Walk, man. Boy did I have that Walkman.

[00:13:51] June Diane Raphael: We all did, but I had so many questions. It was so tough to see him like heading through the jungle, you know, with the, the Sony, um, with the little earphones up. But, but my question is this, were, were we to believe that that Sony Walkman was attached to like a satellite signal?

[00:14:09] Jason Mantzoukas: This is what I wanna know. This is what I want to know.

[00:14:12] June Diane Raphael: Or is he just wearing them to listen back to some of the old sounds?

[00:14:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Or is he listening to music?

[00:14:17] June Diane Raphael: That’s a question too.

[00:14:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Or, or is he like cruising through the jungle listening to like some, some tunes.

[00:14:21] Paul Scheer: Think, I think it’s definitely not hooked up to a satellite. I think he’s listening to Led Zeppelin. He is listening to like Hair of the Dog, you know, or whatever it is.

[00:14:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Hair of the dog?

[00:14:30] Paul Scheer: Isn’t that like, uh, that song, right? The hair of the dog is a band, right?

[00:14:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Hair of the dog, the band. Like, I love this.

[00:14:40] Paul Scheer: Now you are messing with the son of a bitch. Now you are messing with the son of the bitch. Right? That’s one of their songs.

[00:14:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Whoa. I don’t know this at all. This is great.

[00:14:50] Paul Scheer: Wait, I gotta see like.

[00:14:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Somebody out here was singing along.

[00:14:52] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Like, let’s see this.

[00:14:54] Jason Mantzoukas: So Big Hair of the Dog Crowd. Oh, it’s Nazareth.

[00:14:59] Paul Scheer: Oh, Nazareth.

[00:14:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, Nazareth. Hair of the Dog is the song. Perhaps. It’s the album.

[00:15:03] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Okay. All that Was that close all.

[00:15:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, okay. Got it, got it. Thank you.

[00:15:06] Paul Scheer: Now do you get it?

[00:15:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Now I get it. I still don’t know the song, but yes.

[00:15:10] Paul Scheer: Now you are messing with a son of a bitch. Um.

[00:15:16] Jason Mantzoukas: I would’ve loved it if we heard that leaching out of his, uh, his earphones.

[00:15:20] June Diane Raphael: But what is he listening to?

[00:15:22] Paul Scheer: I, no, I think that he is listening to that frequency to see if he gets more clues from it.

[00:15:27] June Diane Raphael: From the Walkman?

[00:15:28] Jason Mantzoukas: How?

[00:15:29] Paul Scheer: No, no, he recorded it.

[00:15:31] June Diane Raphael: So he’s just listening to an old record.

[00:15:33] Jason Mantzoukas: But the last, but Paul, the last, but the last time.

[00:15:36] June Diane Raphael: This was only 42 seconds long.

[00:15:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. And keep in mind this, the last time he was able to get tuned into that frequency, he had to have like a, um. A pressure cooker hooked up to a dry ice machine in order to get it to work.

[00:15:53] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah. No, no, no, no. I’m not saying he’s getting the frequency. He’s not like listening to frequencies like he recorded. It’s like, it’s like he made a listen mix tape. Listen to tape. Oh, oh.

[00:16:01] Jason Mantzoukas: He’s listening to his the greatest hits.

[00:16:02] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Like all I wanna say is this. I, I’m just happy that he is wearing that Walkman, because if he’s wearing the Walkman, means he’s wearing pants and this movie, he’s not often wearing pants.

[00:16:13] Jason Mantzoukas: This, the, the, the, him being like this.

[00:16:17] Paul Scheer: He is, he is pan like he is naked multiple times in this movie.

[00:16:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Just, it’s, it’s right in here. That when, when he, when it’s pulled out that I was like, what the, what?

[00:16:29] Paul Scheer: He, uh, you.

[00:16:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, it’s right. I don’t wanna see this. I don’t wanna, I don’t wanna see that.

[00:16:36] Paul Scheer: We are introduced. We are introduced to Terry Polo in this film. I, I can’t tell if it was post shower or post fuck because they’re drenched in a way that makes you go either way works.

[00:16:49] June Diane Raphael: Or well, gosh, that’s interesting. I just thought we were being told so many times in this movie how everybody’s sweating in every scene, by the way. So like, I didn’t know if they were just sweaty.

[00:17:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, and I think they, the movie, so one thing we haven’t said, which is the macro theme of this movie is climate change. This is without a doubt, this, they are sweating and sweat is a part of it because the aliens like it hot. They don’t like the cold, and so they’re heating up the world and everything’s hot.

[00:17:19] And the weather people keep being like, it’s hotter than normal, blah, blah, blah. And so I feel like they’re constantly just letting us know everybody’s hot, everybody thinks they’re sweating, you know?

[00:17:28] Paul Scheer: Got it. Okay. Got it.

[00:17:30] Jason Mantzoukas: They’re focused on his. Sweat when he’s in the, yeah. And I underground layer.

[00:17:33] June Diane Raphael: Green. Um, green, what was her name? The other woman, the other scientist is also.

[00:17:38] Paul Scheer: Alana Green.

[00:17:39] June Diane Raphael: Oh, Alana Green is also like, her little tail is always dripping.

[00:17:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, she’s got that wet tail.

[00:17:48] June Diane Raphael: She always has a wet tail and I love that she wanted to like, take him, take Zane back to her room. Fuck him. I was like, wow.

[00:17:56] Jason Mantzoukas: You know, what was two things that were hard for me to believe in this movie?

[00:17:59] June Diane Raphael: What’s that?

[00:18:00] Jason Mantzoukas: One. Charlie Sheen is some sort of expert scientist. Two. Charlie Sheen turns down sex when offered. Took me right out of the movie.

[00:18:15] June Diane Raphael: I loved that scene. I love that scene.

[00:18:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Was great.

[00:18:17] June Diane Raphael: Scene outside the door. It was so weird. It was so strange.

[00:18:20] Paul Scheer: And there’s also the, the allure of the scorpion maybe biting her at any moment.

[00:18:24] June Diane Raphael: Yeah. She’s like trying to find.

[00:18:25] Jason Mantzoukas: The scorpions were huge. Also, how did all the scorpions get on the blades of the ceiling fan? How did they get. I’m gonna say seven to nine large scorpions on the blades of a rotating ceiling fan that are then being chucked around the room. And Lindsay Krause is like, does everything, she bathes, she washes up, she goes to bed. It’s not until she’s tucked in in the dark that one of them like gets her on the toe.

[00:18:58] Paul Scheer: Oh. And we are watching that, those toes. Imagine my fascination, I’m in the movie theater, like, wow, look at this. We’re really getting the exciting action of feet under sheets.

[00:19:11] Jason Mantzoukas: You also get his toes. You also get Charlie Sheen’s toes when he inexplicably, why does he think the only answer I have when he’s in the, he’s in the, um, the lair and they’re now after him, is he is like, well, I guess I better step onto that thing that rearranges the molecular chemistry of my body.

[00:19:30] June Diane Raphael: See, I I think I missed something here. I I thought that the only thing he had seen was an alien turn into human on this.

[00:19:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.

[00:19:37] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:19:37] June Diane Raphael: Okay. So why wouldn’t he assume that he would turn into an alien?

[00:19:41] Paul Scheer: No, I think that.

[00:19:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Why does he think or be evaporated?

[00:19:44] Paul Scheer: No, I think he’s like, oh, got it. That’s like a flesh thing. Like, ’cause.

[00:19:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Now when Charlie Sheen says that, I think something way different.

[00:19:54] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:19:55] Jason Mantzoukas: That’s like a flesh thing.

[00:19:58] Paul Scheer: Charlie Sheen’s been in Hollywood. He, he is gone to a lot of parties that have this kind of thing. He steps on it with like, no hesitation, no. Like, huh? Should I, there’s just, he gets on it and I guess what that thing does is just goop ya like a goop.

[00:20:13] June Diane Raphael: But, so, but here’s the thing, okay, so Ron Silva, he’s there is, he’s got a twin in this. Um, in the alien lair, Right?

[00:20:24] Why

[00:20:24] Paul Scheer: don’t they have more bodies?

[00:20:27] June Diane Raphael: Come again.

[00:20:27] Paul Scheer: Like, why don’t they have like, just more models? They got like the same guy. It’s like that same guy with the curly hair.

[00:20:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, yeah. Yeah. Why is that? Do we think? My assumption is they only have the, like, the makeup of so many, the only, the only the people they’ve replaced in the world.

[00:20:44] Paul Scheer: Oh.

[00:20:44] Jason Mantzoukas: And so they can keep creating.

[00:20:46] Paul Scheer: So they only three people and they’ve gotten pretty far with this?

[00:20:48] Jason Mantzoukas: No, there’s a bunch of people, but they’re reusing some models.

[00:20:52] June Diane Raphael: We’ve never seen them. Are those, I guess my question is, are those models from actual human people?

[00:20:59] Paul Scheer: That, well, Ron Silva definitely is a, a human person, right?

[00:21:04] June Diane Raphael: How do you know? No, I don’t think so.

[00:21:05] Jason Mantzoukas: I think Ron Silver is never once a I think he was.

[00:21:10] Paul Scheer: I’m saying when he, when he first Yeah, that’s what I’m, I think Gordy, that that’s what I Yeah. When he first hired him.

[00:21:13] Jason Mantzoukas: But I think at some point he was swapped out premovie starting.

[00:21:16] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah. A hundred percent.

[00:21:17] June Diane Raphael: Well, okay, so he was swapped out like an alien came and took over his body, or is his body somewhere in the dump at the alien lair and they just made a mold out of it?

[00:21:29] Jason Mantzoukas: That’s what I thinking. I think he’s dead, but they’re using his, yes. His, his his look or whatever. But then those stranger thing is that when he goes to Mexico and his, in that scenario, the Ron Silver in that world has a mustache. I was like, but hang on. We can’t just start chucking mustaches on guys.

[00:21:49] Paul Scheer: I, I, I think why that happened was they, at a certain point they go, this is confusing for the audience because Ron Silver could have traveled there.

[00:21:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.

[00:21:58] Paul Scheer: But they need to make you go. It’s No, no, no. It’s not the same one. It’s slightly different. Like, and like.

[00:22:03] Jason Mantzoukas: You know what’s interesting about this movie? And I am, I’m only now realizing it is so many of my problems are in, in a good way. This movie lacks any scenes that cogently give you exposition for what is happening in the movie, what each of the people want or don’t want. There’s no explainers ever.

[00:22:24] Paul Scheer: To me it’s like, it’s as if Indiana Jones had never had like a partner, so it all could be in his own head. Like, ’cause occasionally it’s like, okay, the beginning of Raiders, these guys come and go, Hey look, the arc of the covenant, it’s got this power. You go into this room, this thing happens, and Indiana Jones goes out and he meets somebody else and they go, Hey buddy, when you’re here, this happens. And this, he never tells anyone his plan. It’s all in his head the entire time.

[00:22:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, also Charlie Sheen doesn’t appear a typically for a person in this scenario. The outside, the person who’s been bounced out and now knows the truth and is trying to like, uh, stay ahead of it or whatever, get in front of it. He seems to not know what’s going on. He’s too stupid, in fact. I believe. Like he’s not a, he’s not the smart person who’s figured something out and is now trying to get in front of it. He is, he knows something and is now just running around trying to gather facts.

[00:23:17] June Diane Raphael: Well, and that’s what’s so interesting about the movie and, and the fact that they kill off, um, Richard Schiff so early, because that character.

[00:23:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Was smart.

[00:23:26] June Diane Raphael: Usually. Was smart. And usually provides the information and can check in and say, now we know this.

[00:23:33] Paul Scheer: No, Richard Schiff fucked up immediately. He’s like, don’t tell him about the backup. Don’t tell him about the backup. Anyway, anything else? Oh, there’s a backup.

[00:23:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, but then we lose Richard Schiff and we gain Kiki, the little kid who lives next door. I was,

[00:23:46] Paul Scheer: Or do we?

[00:23:47] Jason Mantzoukas: What are we doing now?

[00:23:49] June Diane Raphael: Why can’t we we have Lindsay Kraus for a second?

[00:23:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Barely. We have barely Lindsay Kraus, but, but I mean, they keep trying to partner him up, but none of it works because at the end of the day, he simply doesn’t know what’s going on.

[00:24:01] June Diane Raphael: But here’s my question for the aliens. If I, I understand that they’re trying to teach us a lesson by speeding up our demise. Like, great, it’s working, you’re doing it. But, but I’m like, they could have killed him, Zane, multiple times.

[00:24:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Easily.

[00:24:20] Paul Scheer: They tried.

[00:24:21] June Diane Raphael: Why? Why? Actually, but Paul, I mean, they’re.

[00:24:24] Paul Scheer: The bathtub.

[00:24:24] June Diane Raphael: They’re tracking, but they’re tracking Calvin and all of these other people. The bathtub, if you wanna kill someone.

[00:24:31] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:24:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Right.

[00:24:31] June Diane Raphael: What an elaborate, what a long road to travel.

[00:24:34] Jason Mantzoukas: What a mouse. The game of mouse trap level nonsense.

[00:24:40] June Diane Raphael: Why?

[00:24:40] Jason Mantzoukas: No, no. Because would think if, if we filled one tub of the floor above structurally, it would nec it would fall through the floor when he’s in the tub. In order for this to work.

[00:24:56] Paul Scheer: By the way, everyone is bathing at the same time because when it falls to the next floor, the woman below him is in the tub too. She jumps in the sink.

[00:25:05] June Diane Raphael: And also men are so rarely in tubs.

[00:25:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, and he’s in the tub. This scene goes on for so long. He’s in the, I didn’t like any of this. It’s also, I don’t need it.

[00:25:23] Paul Scheer: Charlie, bigger reaction. Tubs are falling through the floor. Hide. Hide. It’s so loud. You look a big hole. Big hole. The hole’s giant. Now what did she do? She jumped out into the sink.

[00:25:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Into the sink.

[00:25:41] June Diane Raphael: I understood that.

[00:25:42] Jason Mantzoukas: What’s funny about that is yes, obviously she jumped out into the sink, but we don’t see that. So it looks like she’s just taking a bath in the sink, which is also very funny.

[00:25:51] Paul Scheer: Why is this bathtub so small?

[00:25:54] Jason Mantzoukas: This is such a convoluted way to try and kill someone when that man could have just walked right in and been like, like.

[00:26:00] Paul Scheer: Yeah. By the way, the aliens in this movie do have guns.

[00:26:03] June Diane Raphael: Yes, they do. But so why are they releasing like scorpions on fans and hoping for the best?

[00:26:08] Paul Scheer: Because, we all know the Mexican police department do not leave any stone unturned. If there is a murder, they’re gonna find their suspect.

[00:26:16] June Diane Raphael: By the way, the Mexican Police Department, the way they treated that, Lindsay Krause’s dead body

[00:26:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Whoa.

[00:26:21] June Diane Raphael: Was so unacceptable.

[00:26:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah. They just roll her up in a truck and pull her out of the back. Like she’s a couple of bags of groceries.

[00:26:30] June Diane Raphael: So horrible.

[00:26:32] Jason Mantzoukas: She’s like, got like, got like a 12 pack of Gatorade. Come on Lindsay Krause.

[00:26:37] Paul Scheer: I, I was so confused. Also, they establish, you know, he is a satellite repairman or whatever he is doing, he’s selling DirecTV door to door. Um, when he is going there at one point, you know, in the montage, he speaks very fluent Spanish.

[00:26:50] Um, and then when he goes to Mexico, he is like, have you ever seen any, uh, big, big satellites? Big a, big a satellites, baba, big grande. I was like, he says, dude, dude, you spoke fluently 15 minutes ago. And you’re like, you can’t say big?

[00:27:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Big, big B, but that’s what I mean. He’s not, he’s too dumb. He’s too dumb to follow as the leader. He does not seem to have any awareness of what’s going on.

[00:27:22] Paul Scheer: The dumbest move that he does. And it was my favorite move in the entire movie, and I don’t have this clip so we can play it, but when he is in the, when he is in the elevator dressed as the human skinned version of himself, he’s undercover. And then the other alien gets in. The alien’s like. And he’s like, and he just kinda like grimaces like me. It’s a living, you know? And then like he.

[00:27:46] Jason Mantzoukas: It’s a living? You, you think He said it’s a living.

[00:27:50] June Diane Raphael: That’s the look he gives him though, which is like living what you gonna do about it? You know.

[00:27:55] Paul Scheer: Like he does like a, you know, he is given a lot of artwork. I’m not, I’m with stupid. It’s like he does like this, like the fact that he tries to do anything there is so funny that he is like. Let me, uh, let me whisper in your ear here. You know, and he whispers in the ear and then kills him. Like, but like, that plan was not gonna work.

[00:28:15] Jason Mantzoukas: No. Also the guy, it’s the guy, it’s the taxi cab driver who picked him up and delivered him to his hotel.

[00:28:19] Paul Scheer: Well, no, no.

[00:28:20] June Diane Raphael: Is it, or is it a model?

[00:28:21] Paul Scheer: He’s one of the models.

[00:28:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, no, I know. I’m saying, I’m saying those are the same person. They are.

[00:28:25] June Diane Raphael: Oh, they’re the same model.

[00:28:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Same person.

[00:28:27] Paul Scheer: I think he’s the same model. I don’t think he’s like.

[00:28:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, okay, okay, okay. You’re saying the first time around it’s a human and the second time around it?

[00:28:32] June Diane Raphael: No, we’re we’re saying they’re both aliens.

[00:28:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, okay.

[00:28:34] June Diane Raphael: Saying they’re both aliens.

[00:28:35] Paul Scheer: We’re just saying like, they were like different. There was another guy got molded.

[00:28:37] He’s like, oh, that’s our, that’s our taxi driver guy. Like he does that. But maybe to your point, he is in the same wardrobe and it does seem like they have to get clothes on. At one point, they come out naked at that machine. Right? Because Charlie Sheen’s in the same outfit.

[00:28:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, Charlie Sheen has to take his clothes off.

[00:28:52] Paul Scheer: Oh, right.

[00:28:53] Jason Mantzoukas: In order to be transformed once again, getting nude in the movie.

[00:28:57] Paul Scheer: Charlie Sheen has no problem going belly up naked.

[00:29:00] Jason Mantzoukas: He’s like, he can’t wait to get that dick out.

[00:29:04] Paul Scheer: I’ll take my pants off too. I don’t care.

[00:29:06] Jason Mantzoukas: I just feel like, why would I be wearing clothes when I go into this thing? It won’t matter. It’s gonna change you underneath your clothes.

[00:29:12] June Diane Raphael: It really made me laugh that when he is, before he goes into the mold and turns into that, you know, puts that skin suit on.

[00:29:19] He’s running around that place and he does get caught. And then the picture they put up of him. ‘Cause when he is running around that place, he has his glasses on, his scientist glasses. But when they put the picture up of him, it’s just a different, it’s just like a still shot that they picked up somewhere.

[00:29:34] Paul Scheer: That’s every, by the way you said that he’s wearing his scientist glasses. He wears so many fucking weird glasses. So many weird shades.

[00:29:42] Jason Mantzoukas: I counted four pair of glasses.

[00:29:43] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:29:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Four different pairs.

[00:29:45] Paul Scheer: They’re all, they’re all terrible. They’re all terrible choices.

[00:29:48] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Oh, no. Some of them look like, he’s like an alpinist. Like he’s, he’s trying to climb a frozen mountain with like, like guards over so that light can’t permeate the size.

[00:29:58] Paul Scheer: He has the same taste in glasses that my 10-year-old has. He’s like, I want those.

[00:30:04] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, when he is, when he gets fired and he starts building the at home version of his, um, his lab or whatever it was, I was like, oh, is this gonna be like, pump up the volume?

[00:30:15] But for this, like, is he gonna be a pirate’s radio scientist guy?

[00:30:20] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:30:20] Jason Mantzoukas: And for 10 minutes he kind of was.

[00:30:23] Paul Scheer: Well, then he’d befriend that kid and I’m like, oh wait, is this a kid’s movie? Like again, like, where is this gonna be? The two of them? And that doesn’t pay off either.

[00:30:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, they, we disappear because for 45 plus minutes, we just leave small town America where the most of the movie takes place, and we go to Mexico for this side adventure. It’s more than 45 minutes. I couldn’t believe how much of the movie was set. Not with any of the characters we’d invested in in the first 20 minutes.

[00:30:49] Paul Scheer: But then also when he goes to Mexico and he gets involved and stuff, he has the worst instincts of any adventurer imaginable. He’s in that alien spaceship and it’s like clearly an alien device.

[00:31:02] Like well fucking touch this. Like, oh, maybe this is like a record player. Like he was so cocky, like he knew, but he doesn’t seem to know anything more than radio signals because even his knowledge of aliens isn’t like, I’ve always believed in this, aliens have been trying to do this. Nope. He just is listening for radio.

[00:31:19] Jason Mantzoukas: And, and, and he produces the tape with this one example of this spike and, and everything.

[00:31:24] But never does he really get more. Not until he really finds the underground world and sees aliens themselves, does he get any more information much, you know what I mean? Like he’s also, he’s only able to replicate the same thing. He hears this sound for a few seconds and that’s that. And then.

[00:31:43] Paul Scheer: And why are they making that sound?

[00:31:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Why indeed. Are they trying to get, are they trying to get people to come to, is it a it’s a signal?

[00:31:50] Paul Scheer: I mean, they seem like they’re pretty much set up on earth. No problem.

[00:31:53] June Diane Raphael: That’s the thing.

[00:31:54] Paul Scheer: They seem like they gots a thriving infrastructure.

[00:31:56] June Diane Raphael: I, I think the movie wants us to believe that that signal is information that our aliens, the Ron Silvers, the Kikis of the world need to hear. And.

[00:32:07] Paul Scheer: By the way, when you say it, I keep on thinking of Kiki Palmer.

[00:32:11] June Diane Raphael: One of my favorite lines, by the way, was when Kiki explained that his grandmother wasn’t gonna worry about him at night, ’cause she takes cough medicine. And I was like, she is.

[00:32:20] Jason Mantzoukas: After, after 10, she passes out. Cough medicine.

[00:32:23] June Diane Raphael: She’s too real for that. And I understand her. But she’s just, I deeply understand that woman. But yeah, I don’t know what, what word they’re getting over here because it seems like, honestly, and from the alien’s point of view, everything’s going according to plan.

[00:32:43] Paul Scheer: Yeah. It’s working.

[00:32:44] June Diane Raphael: Yeah. Like don’t give us any more feedback.

[00:32:46] Paul Scheer: Because ultimately, but you see, I think Ron Silva makes a big mistake because they go, Hey, we got this radio transmission, which is just nothing. Right? So he’s like. I’m burying it. Okay. Well, even if you, you go, okay, great. He could have gone, he could have gone wide with it. It didn’t mean anything. It had no information.

[00:33:06] June Diane Raphael: But that, I think looking back now, and I have this point of view now that I’ve seen the whole thing.

[00:33:10] Paul Scheer: Oh wow. It’s like six sense for you.

[00:33:12] June Diane Raphael: That is a little bit, that is classic alien psychology, which is like, they don’t have the capacity to.

[00:33:19] Jason Mantzoukas: That’s, that’s classic. That’s c classic. That’s cap. That’s cap all the way.

[00:33:24] June Diane Raphael: Of course, he should have just been like, you know, underplayed it and

[00:33:29] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:33:29] June Diane Raphael: And not made it, or been like, yeah, we’re gonna investigate it.

[00:33:32] But the aliens don’t know how to behave. They’re, they’re studying us.

[00:33:36] Paul Scheer: Oh, okay. Well, we have a, we have a theory that we know somebody who is also studying us.

[00:33:40] June Diane Raphael: Yeah. We have a very close person in our life who we, we actually, this isn’t a joke. We do believe as an alien. Who’s here in this lifetime to observe us. How we behave.

[00:33:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Do you feel as though, because of questions they ask or periods or things that they are around for or, or, or curious about or, because every once in a while when you’re together, they release a metal ball into the air. That puzzle boxes itself open and creates a indoor tornado.

[00:34:16] June Diane Raphael: Tornado.

[00:34:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Tornado. What was the metal ball?

[00:34:21] June Diane Raphael: I dunno what it was so interesting ’cause the design of it, it almost looked like there were hierarch, like it almost looked like it was an ancient.

[00:34:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.

[00:34:29] June Diane Raphael: Although I guess

[00:34:29] Paul Scheer: A disappearing ball. I mean is that what it does?

[00:34:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. It almost looked like something that could have maybe given us information about the aliens, what they’re up to.

[00:34:38] Paul Scheer: Cant, don’t have time. We only got two hours to get out the story.

[00:34:41] June Diane Raphael: I just, let me ask this. Let me ask this about the aliens because. I I, it doesn’t seem like they’re coming to live here. Right? Or that they’re really worried about us exploring other universes or trying to fuck with them in any sense. We, we are so far from having that capacity, it just seems like they’ve gotten this thing up their ass where they’re like, they just don’t like us.

[00:35:06] Paul Scheer: They wanna, well, no, they wanna Un-McDLT us.

[00:35:09] Right? Or they wanna make like, like.

[00:35:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait, what? They wanna un-McDLT us?

[00:35:15] Paul Scheer: See, so like.

[00:35:16] Jason Mantzoukas: I don’t understand any of this.

[00:35:17] Paul Scheer: All right, so the earth is like a McDLT we keep.

[00:35:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Which is what?

[00:35:21] Paul Scheer: The hot side hot, the cool side, cool. Right? And we got the hot and the cool and they’re like, let’s merge ’em together. And, and then they could have more of a plan. They want un like we’re, we’re keeping it separate. And they’re like, let’s push together.

[00:35:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, so we wanna keep ’em separated. And they are trying to un-McDLT us?

[00:35:41] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:35:42] June Diane Raphael: But why?

[00:35:42] Paul Scheer: Because we’re McDLT.

[00:35:43] June Diane Raphael: But their assumption is that we will eventually burn ourselves to the ground.

[00:35:48] Jason Mantzoukas: And they’re speeding it up.

[00:35:49] June Diane Raphael: But why?

[00:35:50] Jason Mantzoukas: I think they wanna hotter planet. Because they thrive in the heat, don’t they?

[00:35:54] Paul Scheer: Yeah. They want another planet.

[00:35:55] June Diane Raphael: They don’t live here.

[00:35:55] Paul Scheer: Want, they wanna move here.

[00:35:57] June Diane Raphael: Why are they gonna move here?

[00:35:58] Paul Scheer: Retirement.

[00:35:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Beach front property.

[00:36:02] Paul Scheer: I knew.

[00:36:03] June Diane Raphael: I didn’t get that. So they wanna be just ’cause it’s gonna be warm.

[00:36:07] Paul Scheer: Yeah. They want another planet.

[00:36:08] June Diane Raphael: What’s wrong with theirs?

[00:36:10] Paul Scheer: They’re standing.

[00:36:11] Jason Mantzoukas: We never find out out, do we?

[00:36:12] June Diane Raphael: I don’t think so.

[00:36:12] Paul Scheer: They have a, they have a high birth rate.

[00:36:14] Jason Mantzoukas: That’s the thing is I don’t think we, I don’t think we ever find out anyone’s plan. I don’t think we ever get insight into anybody’s understanding of the facts of what’s going on. Everybody appears to be chasing just whatever’s in front of them in that very moment.

[00:36:28] Paul Scheer: It, to me feels like a story that you would tell that wouldn’t be a movie. Like it’s, it’s like they’d be like, oh yeah, and then there was chasing the jungle and then the, the satellite fell.

[00:36:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.

[00:36:37] Paul Scheer: Well, what happened? I don’t know.

[00:36:39] Jason Mantzoukas: What is it for, what is it? What is the station?

[00:36:41] Paul Scheer: Well, I don’t know. I don’t know. They were chasing, chasing me. I, I Then they.

[00:36:44] Jason Mantzoukas: What’s the station in Mexico that he’s inside? What are they doing in there? What’s going, we never find out what it’s about, do we?

[00:36:51] Paul Scheer: No.

[00:36:51] June Diane Raphael: It just seems like a place for them to connect, but.

[00:36:55] Paul Scheer: It’s like a club, an alien club?

[00:36:57] June Diane Raphael: Think of technology.

[00:36:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, there’s eight of them.

[00:36:58] June Diane Raphael: Them to be themselves, I guess.

[00:37:00] Jason Mantzoukas: He finds out there’s eight of them across the world and they wanna make 20. So are they trying to create, like 20 space.

[00:37:06] June Diane Raphael: What they’re doing there is, yeah, they, they’re releasing, I think that machine is releasing greenhouse gas. Right.

[00:37:12] Paul Scheer: Okay.

[00:37:12] June Diane Raphael: Okay. So that’s, thank you so much.

[00:37:16] Paul Scheer: You got it, June, you passed the test.

[00:37:18] Jason Mantzoukas: So that’s, so that’s their plan.

[00:37:21] June Diane Raphael: So that’s their plan. And I guess there’s some, there’s some line about we’re doing it in third world countries because, because why? Because regulations.

[00:37:32] Jason Mantzoukas: It’s easier. Nobody’s, it’s, it’s, it’s looser restrictions and so forth. I think.

[00:37:36] Paul Scheer: Not anymore.

[00:37:39] Jason Mantzoukas: What do you mean?

[00:37:41] June Diane Raphael: He’s saying they might as well build it here.

[00:37:43] Paul Scheer: Now.

[00:37:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, oh, no. At the very beginning, they drop out of the Paris Accords.

[00:37:50] Paul Scheer: There was a, um. The, the reason you said, you know, you’re looking back on it and you realize like why they’re aliens. And now I’m also realizing something too.

[00:37:59] Ron Silver made a very big mistake, uh, when, when Charlie Sheena drops that presentation, he goes, this young man is disturbed. Charlie Sheen aint a young man. You would, no one would ever refer to Charlie Sheen unless you’re like hundreds of years old. You’re like, oh, that is a young man is clearly Charlie Sheen. There’s nothing about him. You were, the first thing would be like, well, young, the young guy. That’s a young guy right there.

[00:38:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Lemme ask you this, wouldn’t it have, I think it would’ve been very interesting. Charlie Sheen, he’s in the, the base in Mexico and they’re after him. And so he steps into the thing nude and it transforms his body with a skin suit over his skin, blah, blah, blah. Why not just stay as that for the rest of the movie?

[00:38:48] Paul Scheer: He was, he was leaking.

[00:38:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, I, I know he was leaking it. It does, but like why, why have him do it if he only is that character for, for four minutes?

[00:38:57] Paul Scheer: Well, again, it’s like, it’s like the technology that we don’t understand. It’s like, so why? So it doesn’t stick on humans.

[00:39:03] Jason Mantzoukas: This was pointless.

[00:39:04] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Like you’re right. It’s like it would’ve been,

[00:39:06] June Diane Raphael: I think it doesn’t stick on non aliens.

[00:39:09] Jason Mantzoukas: I guess so.

[00:39:10] Paul Scheer: I guess.

[00:39:10] Jason Mantzoukas: But then why go through it? I guess it allows him to escape because they find like you could got him outta there. They find his face on the next to the waterfall.

[00:39:18] June Diane Raphael: Now the big question for me is how did he escape?

[00:39:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Mexican rodeo.

[00:39:24] June Diane Raphael: No, I got that. How did he escape the indoor, is that where those yellow glasses came from? Mexican.

[00:39:31] Jason Mantzoukas: I’m assuming.

[00:39:31] June Diane Raphael: Okay, great. Um. And I wish there was a, just a sequel about that trip.

[00:39:38] Paul Scheer: By the way, you’re in luck there is a sequel.

[00:39:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Whoa. What?

[00:39:42] Paul Scheer: Arrival Two, uh, it doesn’t start anybody from this movie.

[00:39:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, okay.

[00:39:46] Paul Scheer: It was a direct to video sequel where they revealing the opening scene that Charlie Sheen’s character had just died of a heart attack.

[00:39:57] Jason Mantzoukas: What a fuck.

[00:39:58] Paul Scheer: They say that Zane was found dead of a heart attack in an Inuit, uh, community after his broadcast to the world about the alien invasion. They wrote it off as a hoax. And now Patrick Maldoon, Charlie Sheen’s brother, sorry, half Brother is avenging his death.

[00:40:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.

[00:40:16] Paul Scheer: And this is the log line. A computer hacker learns the plot of the backwards kneed aliens.

[00:40:25] Jason Mantzoukas: What? That’s what we call, that’s what we’re calling them?

[00:40:28] Paul Scheer: The backward kneeds aliens need to take over the earth using their shape, shifting talents.

[00:40:35] Jason Mantzoukas: This is ridiculous.

[00:40:36] June Diane Raphael: I have to say, the one moment that really got me got me good was Kiki’s reveal.

[00:40:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.

[00:40:43] June Diane Raphael: And I wanna, I wanna shout out the actor who played Kiki because I was watching it. Our son was in the room for that final sequence.

[00:40:51] Paul Scheer: Oh no.

[00:40:51] June Diane Raphael: And I said, and I said, get ready. She’s an alien. ’cause he, he walked in when she had picked up the car phone and he’s like, what do you mean isn’t, isn’t that his wife? I said, she’s an alien. Well, you watch, you watch that woman’s an alien. We watch, we watch.

[00:41:06] And I, I, he said, what? What’s she gonna look like? I said, she’s gonna look like an alien. And it’s about to happen. And boy, were we surprised when Kiki wouldn’t press the red button. And I thought that that actor’s performance was wonderful because I did think, I don’t know, maybe everybody read it way sooner than, than I did.

[00:41:27] But, but I, I was, he was just panicking. He’s, he’s a kid. We’re remembering Kiki’s just a kid. And then when Kiki turned out to be an alien, wow.

[00:41:38] Paul Scheer: But when Kiki flips his knees backwards and runs off.

[00:41:43] June Diane Raphael: Runs into the.

[00:41:44] Paul Scheer: Wow.

[00:41:45] June Diane Raphael: Desert Sun.

[00:41:46] Paul Scheer: I mean, but then again, the movie, this is why you gotta watch this movie two, three times. Because there are these moments when, when Kiki, when Kiki sees the, uh, exterminator and they just look at each other, you’re like, Ooh, that’s a creepy ass moment. Like, Kiki’s afraid.

[00:42:01] June Diane Raphael: And then you look back.

[00:42:02] Paul Scheer: And you’re like, oh, they’re, they’re in cahoots. And Kiki should have been, and then he would’ve been like.

[00:42:07] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, how many people do we think at?

[00:42:09] Paul Scheer: But, but why couldn’t Kiki have done it?

[00:42:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Done what?

[00:42:13] Paul Scheer: Anything.

[00:42:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, oh yes. Agree. Yeah.

[00:42:16] June Diane Raphael: Oh, you mean ’cause Kiki had multiple opportunities to kill.

[00:42:18] Paul Scheer: Kiki had much multiple opportunities. Kiki when he jumped into that truck at him and then

[00:42:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, they are always letting Charlie Sheen get away.

[00:42:26] June Diane Raphael: Well, I do think there’s a possibility that Kiki was turned.

[00:42:31] Paul Scheer: No.

[00:42:33] Jason Mantzoukas: To the. Wait, what do you mean?

[00:42:36] June Diane Raphael: That Kiki was Kiki until

[00:42:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, oh, oh.

[00:42:39] June Diane Raphael: Until he went to Mexico.

[00:42:41] Jason Mantzoukas: I see.

[00:42:41] June Diane Raphael: And then the landscapers got in there and.

[00:42:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Maybe.

[00:42:44] Paul Scheer: No, no, no. Because the moment that we see, that’s the craziest. If Kiki, I believe Kiki is an alien when he jumps into the car with them. Right?

[00:42:52] June Diane Raphael: A thousand percent.

[00:42:52] Paul Scheer: Then why did he leave a note for grandma? Grandma, be back. Like he’s really keeping up this story, like he could, could have just disappeared. I mean, is he running back home?

[00:43:03] Jason Mantzoukas: I’m sad. I’m sad for that grandma. Yeah. Does Kiki just go back home? And.

[00:43:07] June Diane Raphael: I don’t know, because the thing is, we don’t know what happens to their real bodies. If what’s his face is Gordy is out there somewhere. You know?

[00:43:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Yes. If they, if there’s.

[00:43:15] June Diane Raphael: In some sort of a pod.

[00:43:16] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. If there’s a ship full of pods. Secret invasion style.

[00:43:19] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.

[00:43:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Terrible show. Uh, but I guess I, ’cause at the end of the movie, what we uncover is that there, there’s this gigantic plot and these aliens are gonna take over the planet and blah, blah, blah. And the only it, our only hope is if Charlie Sheen can wrestle a mini dv cassette tape out of out of actor activist Ron Silver’s, uh, jacket pocket like this, it’s, so, it’s.

[00:43:50] Paul Scheer: Why was he carrying it around? Mail that to the.

[00:43:52] Jason Mantzoukas: The stakes are so small for such a big thing that I was like, how? And then all that, all that he does is successfully broadcast the, that, that bit of conversation. And that’s, that, that’s it.

[00:44:04] Paul Scheer: And, and never even a shock look of anyone watching that news.

[00:44:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Nope.

[00:44:08] Paul Scheer: Nope. Not, not a, not, we don’t know how.

[00:44:10] Jason Mantzoukas: No, nobody has revealed to be an alien on tv. Nobody, not. No. Great gotcha. No, great. Nothing. I believe nothing happens.

[00:44:15] Paul Scheer: And then all then all we know is he died, uh, in.

[00:44:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Of a heart attack.

[00:44:19] Paul Scheer: Uh, being with a bunch of Native Americans. Uh, he just died in their, in their compound suspiciously, which makes me believe the Native Americans are in it too. All right, so let’s go out to the crowd.

[00:44:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.

[00:44:30] Paul Scheer: Let’s find out what you all think. All right, great. We already have a hand up here. Um, all right, here we go. Alright. What’s your name? What’s your question?

[00:44:38] Audience Member: Nick. So the aliens, when they’re in human form, do not sweat. And that’s why there’s a fan theory, at least on IMDB trivia that his girlfriend is an alien also. Cause she never sweats.

[00:44:50] Paul Scheer: Wow.

[00:44:52] Jason Mantzoukas: And we, they show her never sweating?

[00:44:54] Audience Member: They show everyone else sweating.

[00:44:55] June Diane Raphael: I thought that in that, in that like post coital scene, that they were both sweaty.

[00:45:00] Paul Scheer: That was wet.

[00:45:03] June Diane Raphael: Oh, from the shower?

[00:45:04] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:45:06] June Diane Raphael: How do you know?

[00:45:11] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Okay. Hey, what’s your question?

[00:45:13] Audience Member: Uh, so my question is going back to Kiki, ’cause I do believe also that Kiki was turned and going back to the note that you were mentioning. If we believe that the girlfriend didn’t actually inform these people, uh, that the aliens said they’re going to this satellite, is it possible that note that he left on for grandma was actually a note to the other alien saying, we’re heading to this satellite area.

[00:45:37] June Diane Raphael: Wow. So grandma’s an alien too?

[00:45:39] Paul Scheer: Oh.

[00:45:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, oh.

[00:45:41] Paul Scheer: Maybe there’s no grandma. Just an alien. Maybe it’s another alien.

[00:45:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Like imagine a world in which they, it was revealed at the end of the movie that everybody but Charlie Sheen was an alien. Wouldn’t that have been great? Like I, and I don’t think Charlie Sheen nor us, the audience ever really learned the plot of the movie.

[00:45:58] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Um, alright. This is our, this is our friend who read Jill Rips, uh, the other night.

[00:46:04] Jason Mantzoukas: David.

[00:46:05] Paul Scheer: Alright. So David, what’s your question?

[00:46:07] Audience Member: Well, I have an alternative theory for Kiki. Um, I think he was an alien all along. ‘Cause when he hurt his ankle, Charlie Sheen gives him an ice pack and he says, I don’t like that. That’s cold.

[00:46:18] Paul Scheer: Oh wow. You guys are not messing around. Alright. You’re hard to get to. But I I.

[00:46:26] June Diane Raphael: That’s so interesting. Cause if he’s an alien the whole time.

[00:46:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Then he, they, they tasked him to keep an eye on Charlie Sheen, I assume.

[00:46:34] June Diane Raphael: But again, why do the aliens.

[00:46:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Why not just kill him?

[00:46:37] June Diane Raphael: Make it so hard. Yeah. For themselves.

[00:46:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Why not just kill him? They don’t need, they’re not like, he’s so close to figuring something we need out. So let’s let him keep going. No, no. They could, they could just kill him at any point.

[00:46:48] Paul Scheer: He seems to be a person that if he wound up dead, no one would ask a single question.

[00:46:52] Jason Mantzoukas: No. Kiki, he’s an unsympathetic human being.

[00:46:56] Paul Scheer: Oh, yep. Easy, easy kill. Uh, what’s your question? Your name, question?

[00:47:01] Audience Member: Uh, my name is Dave. Question is from the very beginning of this movie, the title is The Arrival, but they never arrive. They’re already there. So.

[00:47:09] Paul Scheer: Now this is interesting. Now get ready for this. That’s a great question. The title of this movie before it was released, was shockwave, but that also doesn’t make any sense. You all agreed to it like, yeah. Well that’s better. It doesn’t, there’s no shockwave, there’s no arrival.

[00:47:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. You guys fucked up.

[00:47:31] Paul Scheer: It should have been like Heatwave. It could have been, you know, Skin Suits. Yeah. Kiki’s, Big Adventure. They’re already here.

[00:47:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay, well, well, Kiki does bring some stuff. Kiki’s delivery service.

[00:47:45] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Alright. Yes. Your, your name, your question.

[00:47:49] Audience Member: Uh, my name’s Andy. Do we think that the scorpions might have actually been aliens because they’re very well organized.

[00:47:55] Paul Scheer: I was gonna say the same thing. Maybe that’s how they first started on the planet instead of having a a hu human flesh machine.

[00:48:02] Jason Mantzoukas: I would’ve loved it if they were, I would’ve loved it if there was specificity to anything. If I understood, if I understood the alien’s plan, the alien’s look, the alien’s ethos, the alien’s, weapons, the, I wish I under that, that I wish they had more.

[00:48:18] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.

[00:48:18] Jason Mantzoukas: I wish they were letting me in more. I felt on the outside the whole time. Just like Charlie Sheen.

[00:48:23] June Diane Raphael: The one thing I really didn’t like about the aliens was they’re two skin flaps in the back of their head.

[00:48:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.

[00:48:29] Paul Scheer: They’re like bunny ears that are down that then kind of like heat them up a little. They’re like Jar jar, bink ears or something like that.

[00:48:37] June Diane Raphael: One of the things I loved, I just wanna mention it before second opinion songs, is that in the beginning.

[00:48:41] Paul Scheer: June, don’t spoil the episode.

[00:48:42] June Diane Raphael: Sorry. In the beginning scene with Schiff and the two of them are doing. S like real intense rolling office chair acting. And I realized as I was watching and I was like, I love this. I love this. I, it always works when people are rolling in and rolling out.

[00:49:03] Jason Mantzoukas: They’ve got great banter. It’s got great banter.

[00:49:07] June Diane Raphael: Yeah. Rolling back to this computer and then we’re rolling here, and then soon as we’re cross rolling and it’s always wonderful.

[00:49:16] Paul Scheer: I, I, I mean, look, you’re right. We lost Richard Schiff. I feel like Charlie Sheen might’ve wanted to just go solo. Like, just be like, you know what? I don’t need any help.

[00:49:25] Jason Mantzoukas: What’s it?

[00:49:26] June Diane Raphael: Well, I wouldn’t be surprised. I was fine with Richard Schiff being left back. I just thought and then coming back at the end, but losing him all together so quickly.

[00:49:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.

[00:49:36] Paul Scheer: Well, what, what would’ve been the best reveal?

[00:49:37] Jason Mantzoukas: If he comes back and is an alien.

[00:49:39] Paul Scheer: Fuck yeah.

[00:49:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, would’ve been great is he, we see him get taken away and yes, later in the movie, after Mexico, he’s back.

[00:49:45] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:49:45] Jason Mantzoukas: And he’s like, oh, what happened to you? Oh, I went to.

[00:49:47] Paul Scheer: That’s a, that’s an ending.

[00:49:48] Jason Mantzoukas: And then you realize he, it’s not Kiki, it’s Richard Schiff.

[00:49:51] Paul Scheer: Lemme call up David Twohy. Hold on.

[00:49:52] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Let’s, we can do this.

[00:49:53] June Diane Raphael: Yeah. Get him on the line.

[00:49:53] Paul Scheer: Can you go shoot more? Yeah, you can. He said he can.

[00:49:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Nice.

[00:49:56] June Diane Raphael: Wonderful.

[00:49:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Sheen figures out that if he hits the bad guys with liquid nitrogen, they freeze.

[00:50:02] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.

[00:50:03] Jason Mantzoukas: And you can like smash ’em basically, right?

[00:50:05] Paul Scheer: Yeah. But I think that that’s also for everyone.

[00:50:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah?

[00:50:09] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:50:10] June Diane Raphael: You don’t think that’s for everyone?

[00:50:11] Paul Scheer: Yes.

[00:50:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, how come it doesn’t, it doesn’t affect him or Terry Polo?

[00:50:14] Paul Scheer: Because they’re not getting blasted with it.

[00:50:16] Jason Mantzoukas: I think you could get, can I uh, do we have any liquid nitrogen experts?

[00:50:21] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:50:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Did you do it?

[00:50:22] Paul Scheer: What do you know? What do you know about liquid nitrogen?

[00:50:26] Audience Member: I worked in research labs and yeah, liquid, like liquid nitrogen will fuck you up. It’ll burn you really bad with just a tiny bit.

[00:50:31] June Diane Raphael: Any one or aliens? If you’re an alien or.

[00:50:33] Paul Scheer: We used to do this bit, we used to do this bit, um, at the show.

[00:50:36] We used to do it at UCB. Chad Carter used to do it ’cause he had access to liquid nitrogen and he would be like a, a Mr. Science guy. And he is like, oh yeah, you could put anything in here. Put a rose in here. He put drop a rose. Break it then he’d be like, oh, he put this in there, break it. And then he’s talking and he accidentally puts his hand in there.

[00:50:52] And then he had, he had a whole rig and then he, and then he would slam his hand in hand would explode. And that’s how I always know that liquid nitrogen, yeah, it will fuck you up bad. So.

[00:51:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.

[00:51:01] Paul Scheer: Yeah, they shoot them and then they’re kind of like icicles. ’cause like when he does like chop his hand off, I’m like, oh God.

[00:51:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Now they’re gonna know to get the hot aliens with extreme cold. Isn’t that smart? Nope. They don’t do it.

[00:51:17] Paul Scheer: They’re gonna McDLT it again. Like that’s all.

[00:51:19] Jason Mantzoukas: You mean They’re gonna un-McDLT it?

[00:51:22] Paul Scheer: Right. ‘Cause they wanna McDLT. Well, I guess the idea is that we are a McDLT planet.

[00:51:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Is McDonald sponsoring this episode?

[00:51:29] Paul Scheer: Don’t blow it. Don’t blow it.

[00:51:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Does mc DLT still exist?

[00:51:32] June Diane Raphael: No.

[00:51:34] Paul Scheer: I think it could come back.

[00:51:37] Jason Mantzoukas: So wait, is there no bacon in a McDLT?

[00:51:40] Paul Scheer: Alright, well Jason, hold on one second. I, I mean.

[00:51:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Because. What’s the well, or what’s the, what’s the D? What’s the D? In a McDLT?,

[00:51:49] June Diane Raphael: McDonald’s.

[00:51:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Donald’s? So it’s a Don Donald’s lettuce and tomato? I’m so sorry. I know this is a bacon, lettuce and tomato, and you’re telling me we’ve assured this, that it’s a Donald’s lettuce and tomato. Hold the Donald’s for mine.

[00:52:09] Paul Scheer: Look, this is a Jason Alexander commercial for Mc DLT.

[00:52:12] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay. With his hair system?

[00:52:13] Commercial: Hey, you say you’re getting tired of lettuce and tomato hamburgers in this town that don’t quite make it?

[00:52:18] Yeah.

[00:52:18] You say that just once you’d like your hamburger hot and your lettuce and tomato cool and crisp all at the same time.

[00:52:24] Yeah.

[00:52:25] Well I say you got it. I’m talking McDonald’s new lettuce and tomato hamburger. The Mc DLT, I’m talking quarter pound of beef on the hot, hot side and the hot stays hot. The new Mc DLT Hot, hot crisp lettuce and tomato on the cool cool side.

[00:52:41] And the cool stays cool. The new Mc DLT. Cool crisp. The beef stays hot. The cool stays crisp. Put it together. You can’t resist. Hot stays the coolest.

[00:52:52] Paul Scheer: Alien..

[00:52:52] Commercial: Keep it hot. Hot. Keep cool. Cool. McDLT. McDLT.

[00:52:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow. Whoa.

[00:52:58] Commercial: Best taste lettuce, a tomato hamburger, ever.

[00:53:01] The McDLT!

[00:53:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow, that’s incredible. And I’m, I’m just looking at the description below, and that’s written by Steven Sondheim. Wait, when, when was the, when did this exist? Um, when was the last time Mc DLT was offered?

[00:53:19] Paul Scheer: I mean, probably before Jason Alexander was on Seinfeld. We know that.

[00:53:22] June Diane Raphael: So all a Mc DLT is is the burger in different compartments?

[00:53:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.

[00:53:27] Paul Scheer: A lot of styrofoam. No, here’s the thing, let me tell you. So there’s, I was asked to collaborate with a restaurateur in New York and he said he makes a really great burger. And I, and I, he said, what do we wanna do? And I said, I wanna bring back the McDLT. And this is a couple years ago.

[00:53:42] And he’s like. Wait, I don’t know what that is. And I said, hot side, hot. Cold, side cold. You’re going to deliver this and you push it together. And he is like, that’s a genius idea. People went fucking nuts for it because of course you don’t wanna get the toma, you want a crisp tomato.

[00:53:58] June Diane Raphael: You do.

[00:53:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait a minute.

[00:53:59] June Diane Raphael: But the problem is.

[00:54:00] Jason Mantzoukas: A crisp tomato?

[00:54:02] Paul Scheer: Or I mean, you want like, you want the cold, you know, you.

[00:54:04] June Diane Raphael: You don’t want it to be hot. But the problem I have with the McDLT is the bun on the hot side is gonna be such a different temperature than the bun on the, on the cold side. And I, I don’t like that.

[00:54:16] Paul Scheer: Alright, how about.

[00:54:17] Jason Mantzoukas: How about this? Don’t eat this garbage.

[00:54:21] June Diane Raphael: No, that’s not an option.

[00:54:23] Paul Scheer: The lettuce and tomato stay cool..

[00:54:25] Jason Mantzoukas: What is this? The dough Boys? Are we doing a dough boys episode right now? Five forks. Awesome.

[00:54:32] Paul Scheer: Alright. Uh, now obviously some people have a different opinion about this movie and that’s why it’s always time for us to give thanks to them and give a little bit of a spotlight and something we like to call second opinions.

[00:54:47] Audience Member: Yeah. Uh, okay. Uh, I’m Stewart. Uh, this is my sister.

[00:54:53] Hi, I’m Sasha.

[00:54:55] Uh, yeah.

[00:55:01] So second opinions. So second opinion. These are second opinions that were called from Amazon. Second opinion. Second opinion. Five stars.

[00:55:21] Paul Scheer: Amazing. Give it up. Great job. Thank you so much. You can have back to your seat.

[00:55:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible duo. Give it up.

[00:55:28] Paul Scheer: Great job.

[00:55:33] The average review of this movie is 4.5 out of five stars out of 400 total reviews, 72% are five star. Fuelage, back in 2011 writes,

[00:55:50] “There is a sequel called Arrival Two for this film. And while it is good the first film, The Arrival is outstanding and Sheen plays his role incredibly well despite his recent difficulties. He is a stellar actor and this film is a wonderful example of his talent and his ability to make a real, somewhat hard to believe scenario. I watched it several times and the entire cast, such as the little alien boy, are very convincing. Another point. The Arrival came up with global warming just a few years before Al Gore brought it to the concern. So if Al Gore hasn’t seen this movie, he should.”

[00:56:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.

[00:56:47] Paul Scheer: Gilman Gilman writes,

[00:56:51] “Now, we all know that these newscasters with the funny looking legs are indeed aliens.”

[00:57:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait.

[00:57:01] Paul Scheer: “The legs tell it all. Five stars.”

[00:57:04] Jason Mantzoukas: What legs, what newscasters, what legs?

[00:57:07] Paul Scheer: You know these, these newscasters with the funny, funny looking legs.

[00:57:10] Jason Mantzoukas: What, like Mary Hart?

[00:57:15] Paul Scheer: This is written in 2003,

[00:57:17] “The Arrival, simply the best after being a sci-fi fan for many decades.”

[00:57:24] By the way, this is all in caps, so it’d be like this,

[00:57:27] “After being a sci-fi fan for many decades and seeing many sci-fi films, this one, The Arrival, the first one with Charlie Sheen, not the tag along Arrival Two, which is okay, The Arrival is far one of the best I’ve ever viewed. The studio’s recent attempts like Mission to Mars and the Red Planet are bad, bad attempts. If you viewed these, they should at least make them understandable and viewable with a decent plot. Although Pitch Black is pretty good. If you are a sci-fi fan and don’t have the original 1990s version of The Arrival, you don’t know what you’re missing. Ad Astra. Five stars.”

[00:58:19] Don’t know what Ad Astra meant at the end. There it goes. Uh, and that is, those are the five star opinions of The Arrival.

[00:58:28] Jason Mantzoukas: I, I mean, I disagree. I mean, to say that this is like the best science fiction movie ever. It is nuts.

[00:58:37] Paul Scheer: Yeah, I would say that. Um, yeah, one little piece of science. The FM frequency radio waves would not be used for interstellar communication because radio waves bounce off the ionosphere back to earth. None of them make it out to space. Um, but maybe it was hearing inter interplanetary communication.

[00:58:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Maybe they’re talking to each other.

[00:58:58] Paul Scheer: And they also say the black hole generator sucks up everything in Zane’s attic, and it leaves the rest of the house intact with only a damaged electrical socket.

[00:59:06] Jason Mantzoukas: It basically cleans up.

[00:59:08] Paul Scheer: Yes, it says, but when the same device is used in the satellite array, it destroys the entire building. So maybe it’s just a, a, a setting. Um, they blame the.

[00:59:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Say, where’s the satellite array? Ha, what did you set the ball to?

[00:59:25] Paul Scheer: They put it to max power.

[00:59:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Also, sometimes the ball looked like small and sometimes the ball looked like a basketball.

[00:59:31] June Diane Raphael: Very large.

[00:59:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Like it also had, it was like inconsistent size wise.

[00:59:36] June Diane Raphael: I did find it so satisfying to see his back house all cleaned up by the ball.

[00:59:40] Paul Scheer: I wanted it.

[00:59:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Imagine if, if, if we all had balls instead of Roombas running around, you know?

[00:59:46] June Diane Raphael: Right.

[00:59:47] Paul Scheer: I do like when taglines are, uh, long and this is the tagline for this movie.

[00:59:55] “For centuries. We’ve been watching the skies when we should have been watching our backs.”

[01:00:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh oh. Love it.

[01:00:06] Paul Scheer: That’s it. Sorry. It’s not as long as I thought, but it’s a long, it’s not like The Arrival. They’re here and they’re mad. That’s like, it’s pretty good.

[01:00:13] Jason Mantzoukas: It’s not, it’s, it’s ultimately, I, I enjoyed watching it. It’s not a ton of fun.

[01:00:18] Paul Scheer: No.

[01:00:18] Jason Mantzoukas: I wanted to be.

[01:00:19] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.

[01:00:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Let in more on everybody’s experience. I felt like the movie was keeping. Re really keeping Charlie Sheen in the dark, but also keeping the audience in the dark. So much so that there was, it wasn’t as fun to have the, there were so few discoveries and pieces of knowledge given that I felt like, oh, why am I trapped on the outside looking in?

[01:00:40] June Diane Raphael: Yes. Well, when, when the first, that older man in Mexico, when his bones started cracking and then he jumped up onto the roof and then he also sort of looked down like,

[01:00:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.

[01:00:51] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[01:00:53] Jason Mantzoukas: I was like this.

[01:00:53] Paul Scheer: Gotcha.

[01:00:54] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.

[01:00:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Gimme more of this.

[01:00:55] June Diane Raphael: It was so funny. And I was like, oh wow. We’re in for a ride.

[01:01:00] Jason Mantzoukas: And also he, that guy, that scene comes at the very end of that guy trying to kill Charlie Sheen in the bathtub where Charlie Sheen is now just wearing pants and no shirt and keeps running in and out of a Mexican funeral.

[01:01:13] Uh, or is what’s the, what’s the, the people carrying flowers?

[01:01:16] Paul Scheer: Day of the Dead or Dead?

[01:01:17] June Diane Raphael: It’s Day of the Dead.

[01:01:18] Jason Mantzoukas: It’s Day of the Dead is when?

[01:01:18] June Diane Raphael: Yes.

[01:01:18] Jason Mantzoukas: It’s Day of the Dead. Sorry. He’s running around like chaos agent. And then I’m like, okay.

[01:01:23] Paul Scheer: He’s running around. Like the, what, what’s this guy from, uh, the MMA fighter or the, the, in the beginning of Roadhouse when he is walking.

[01:01:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Connor McGregor.

[01:01:29] Paul Scheer: Yeah. When he walks around, butt naked in the middle street. I’m like, best entrance of all time in any movie. Uh, but yeah, like he, he’s very casually running around and that guy should have just jumped on a building immediately.

[01:01:39] Jason Mantzoukas: And, and why weren’t, why wasn’t either that guy or any of the other aliens just constantly trying to kill Charlie Sheen from then on? Like, we know that’s their intention now. So keep at it guys.

[01:01:51] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.

[01:01:52] Paul Scheer: Be pretty easy. Pretty easy to do.

[01:01:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Let, let’s, I mean, they, the best we can do is when he gets back, uh, the landscapers come after him with like a scythe. I was like, what, what, what, what, what? Now we’re gonna reap Charlie Sheen? Whoa. What’s going on? Give me alien guns. Give me anything. Let them baw him.

[01:02:12] June Diane Raphael: He’s, he’s not particularly good at hiding, nor is he really trying to hide. Except.

[01:02:17] Jason Mantzoukas: And they are bad at finding, nor are they trying to find. Everybody’s bad at their job in this.

[01:02:24] June Diane Raphael: Yes. Yes.

[01:02:26] Paul Scheer: Except for Ron Silver.

[01:02:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.

[01:02:28] Paul Scheer: Who seems to be very good at his job.

[01:02:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.

[01:02:31] Paul Scheer: I mean, I like Ron. I look, I like this movie. Um, if it was 30 minutes.

[01:02:37] Jason Mantzoukas: 30 minutes long, or 30 minutes shorter?

[01:02:39] Paul Scheer: 30 minutes long.

[01:02:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.

[01:02:41] Paul Scheer: I, I don’t think, I, I think that there was, uh, a lot that was, uh, we didn’t need to be, uh, established. Uh, like there’s not much going on here. It does need a sequel. I like what, uh, Tim said that it should have been his arrival on the alien ship.

[01:02:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Has anyone seen the sequel? Okay, good. I I was.

[01:02:58] June Diane Raphael: Never heard a silence like that.

[01:02:59] Paul Scheer: They’re fans.

[01:03:00] Jason Mantzoukas: As I was asking. I was like, I hope one of these idiots doesn’t answer. God. I saw the next 15 minutes where I’m trapped in a conversation with, no offense, one of you fucking absolute lunatics.

[01:03:14] Paul Scheer: Thank you so much for coming, largo, goodnight!

[01:03:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Eat shit.

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